Good grief. Either type of vehicle on fire is extremely dangerous. There's far more carcinogenic material in the plastics burning anything else. And all types of vehicles are loaded with that.
Good grief. Either type of vehicle on fire is extremely dangerous. There's far more carcinogenic material in the plastics burning anything else. And all types of vehicles are loaded with that.
Indeed - the difference being that an on-fire ICE vehicle can be extinguished with common fire suppression tools like water or on-board extinguishers...
Battery fires cannot....water can actually make it worse...
Indeed - the difference being that an on-fire ICE vehicle can be extinguished with common fire suppression tools like water or on-board extinguishers...
Battery fires cannot....water can actually make it worse...
Unfortunately Australia is still in the dark ages with many aspects of EV infrastructure and uptake.
But this discussion about the possibility of EV fires is rather asinine.
EV's are inherently safer than a car with a tank-full of highly inflammable petrochemicals and the stats prove it. (Google Ford Pinto)
Rocks also fall from space....no doubt some would advocate wearing of hard hats because of this dire problem
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Unfortunately Australia is still in the dark ages with many aspects of EV infrastructure and uptake.
Very true and won't get any better IMO considering recent policy decisions and the future impact those will have on emissions etc etc
But this discussion about the possibility of EV fires is rather asinine.
EV's are inherently safer than a car with a tank-full of highly inflammable petrochemicals and the stats prove it. (Google Ford Pinto)
Problem here is who in their right mind would ever buy a Ford Pinto.
Quote "electric vehicle battery fires are rare. Indeed, the available data indicate the fire risk is between 20 and 80 times greater for petrol and diesel vehicles. Fire risks are also greater for electric scooters and electric bikes"
Rocks also fall from space....no doubt some would advocate wearing of hard hats because of this dire problem
Good luck getting that to the bottom deck of the QVB carpark
The reality is no EV has spontaneously gone up in smoke in any basement carpark in Australia to date....and BTW don't forget your hard hat for that occasional rock from space. Suffice to say there have been a number of ICE cars go up in smoke in carparks to date.
That said, it would be prudent to educate EV owners whose cars have been in a collision...infact...maybe even mandate a safety inspection...to ensure the HV pack is not compromised.
A lot of cars have the possibility of remote control including US ones. Police in some places want to have the ability to disable cars to save having to chase cars. Too open to abuse or error for my liking.
I cannot see any situation short of D Day situations where anyone would benefit from a mass disabling of cars. Doing that would destroy the reputation of the manufacturer world wide. Even your least favorite politician is surely not that stupid.
Like Peter I have had a few English cars which had automatic random fails as a feature. Lucas electrics stopped many a car. You could fix English cars at the roadside which is just as well, you had to. All major manufacturers products are far more reliable now.
On Chinese EVs I have had the opportunity to examine a couple closely and found them to be very well made, certainly well up with the leading brands. They drove well too. Worthy competition for my Tesla S which has been loads of fun and totally reliable thanks. Never looked like running out of electricity either. Only tiny brain power and planning to avoid that problem, The car keeps you accurately notified about battery charge level.
What absolutely baffles me with Tesla in particular (I'm not sure whether other manufacturers do it) is every conceivable feature is built into the car but you have to pay a premium to unlock them. If my car comes with a stereo I want to listen to it without having to pay extra to have knobs installed so I can turn it on (analogy relating to vehicles I'm familiar with).
Heated seats, other features, all provided dependant on your willingness to pay a premium for a software update to activate them, it seems like nothing more than a scam. Were I ever in a position to buy a Tesla I'd soon have my son writing a hack to get me the premium features I've already paid for (as far as production costs go, they don't just give them away) and activating them all.
Soon life will be a subscription service, pay up or die.
Software scamming has become UNBELIEVABLE.
What absolutely baffles me with Tesla in particular (I'm not sure whether other manufacturers do it) is every conceivable feature is built into the car but you have to pay a premium to unlock them.
Sorry Leo, this is simply not true.
Tesla seat warmers, radio etc. work perfectly without the need for a "subscription"
There is a premium connectivity that gives you internet access audio streaming
and a "google earth" like option on the Nav system with real time traffic delay
data. That's about it, and you certainly don't need it to have a fully functioning car.
As per most people Peter I have no idea about the Tesla's or other electric vehicles I'm only mentioning what I've read online.
I shouldn't have used subscription I meant pay extra to access luxury features built into the car. I get it, you want luxury it costs extra but when it's already installed and covered in the original purchase price (they don't just give the luxury features away and lose money on production costs) I don't see why they aren't unlocked standard.
I do understand that there's nothing that makes the car unsafe or inoperable.
Then again it could just be the empty void between my ears and it was BMW I'd read about, not sleeping does that to a person.
The only function that I’m aware of in my Tesla that requires an upsell is the Full Self Driving package, which isn’t available or legal in Australia yet.
All the sensors are otherwise used for parking, autonomous emergency braking, cruise control etc anyways.
There’s a lot of FUD about something new. How much of that comes from the other businesses whose model Tesla is bucking is tricky, but not hard, to guess. I mean, car salesmen are eliminated, 6-month servicing is eliminated. Oil companies are bypassed. Not suspicious at all
Seems to me that in this “farcebook-world” we now live in, people have lost the ability to retrieve and analyse facts and think for themselves.
